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- I think 15 people per house is the maximum amount. Currently 12 are registered in K20, 2 in K22.
- I think 15 people per house is the maximum amount. Currently 12 are registered in K20, 2 in K22.


Proposal


* Visitors: no (and let's be strict)
** Visitors who got registration/rental contract when they were vol/mem: 1 year to un-register
* Volunteers: can request, vol-mems decide within 7 days
* Members: yes




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     - only here for less then 6 month
     - only here for less then 6 month
     - no need for social benefits
     - no need for social benefits
== Getting a rental contract ==
Getting a rental contract is not needed to stay in Kanthaus. If people are interested in getting one, it is
== Legal information ==
== Legal information ==
* Tenants are legally required to register within '''two weeks''' after moving in (or deregister after moving out), as stated in '''§ 17 of the Federal Registration Act (BMG)'''.   
* Tenants are legally required to register within '''two weeks''' after moving in (or deregister after moving out), as stated in '''§ 17 of the Federal Registration Act (BMG)'''.   
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* As landlords, we cannot obtain a list of people registered at our address without their consent due to data protection laws.
* As landlords, we cannot obtain a list of people registered at our address without their consent due to data protection laws.
* If we suspect misuse, we can request a '''registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft)''' by demonstrating legitimate interest (e.g., former tenants fraudulently using our address).
* If we suspect misuse, we can request a '''registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft)''' by demonstrating legitimate interest (e.g., former tenants fraudulently using our address).
* If former tenants fail to deregister, we can report this to the registration office and request their deregistration.
* If former tenants fail to deregister, we can report this to the registration office and request their deregistration.
 
* Sources:
* Sources:
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__17.html § 17 BMG – Registration Obligation (gesetze-im-internet.de)]   
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__17.html § 17 BMG – Registration Obligation (gesetze-im-internet.de)]   
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__19.html § 19 BMG – Confirmation of Residence (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__19.html § 19 BMG – Confirmation of Residence (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__54.html § 54 BMG – Administrative Offenses (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
  * [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__54.html § 54 BMG – Administrative Offenses (gesetze-im-internet.de)]  
* [https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/120686/ Melderegisterauskunft – Berlin.de] 
  * [https://www.datenschutz.org/melderegisterauskunft/ Registration Records Explained – Datenschutz.org (German)]
  * [https://www.datenschutz.org/melderegisterauskunft/ Registration Records Explained – Datenschutz.org (German)]

Revision as of 13:10, 23 January 2025

Took this over from Larissas pad. Will work on it.

Process for registering in Kanthaus

- I think 15 people per house is the maximum amount. Currently 12 are registered in K20, 2 in K22.

Proposal

  • Visitors: no (and let's be strict)
    • Visitors who got registration/rental contract when they were vol/mem: 1 year to un-register
  • Volunteers: can request, vol-mems decide within 7 days
  • Members: yes


VolMems:

- can register without having to ask but should announce it to the current group (they need a signed Wohnungsgeberbestätigung anyway)

Visitors

- things to consider:

   - how long are they planning on staying? (under 6 month they don't need to register in Kanthaus legally)
   - whats the reason they need to register here? (e.g. to recieve Social benefits)


- Reasons for registering:

   - defenitly are staying longer than 6 month (but maybe they become a volunteer then anyway)
   - don't have another place to register/stay registered (flat, parents etc.)
   - need to be registerd in germany to work/recieve social benefits

- Reasons for not registering:

   - only here for less then 6 month
   - no need for social benefits

Getting a rental contract

Getting a rental contract is not needed to stay in Kanthaus. If people are interested in getting one, it is

Legal information

  • Tenants are legally required to register within two weeks after moving in (or deregister after moving out), as stated in § 17 of the Federal Registration Act (BMG).
  • Landlords (we) are obligated to provide a confirmation of residence (Wohnungsgeberbescheinigung) under § 19 BMG.
  • If someone misuses our address (e.g., falsely registering as living there), we can notify the registration office. They can investigate and correct improper registrations.
  • Under § 54 BMG, providing false information during registration or failing to deregister is a violation and may result in fines.
  • As landlords, we cannot obtain a list of people registered at our address without their consent due to data protection laws.
  • If we suspect misuse, we can request a registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft) by demonstrating legitimate interest (e.g., former tenants fraudulently using our address).
  • If former tenants fail to deregister, we can report this to the registration office and request their deregistration.
  • Sources:
* § 17 BMG – Registration Obligation (gesetze-im-internet.de)  
* § 19 BMG – Confirmation of Residence (gesetze-im-internet.de)
* § 54 BMG – Administrative Offenses (gesetze-im-internet.de)   
* Registration Records Explained – Datenschutz.org (German)