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== Process for registering in Kanthaus ==
Having a person registered could eventually translate into problems or annoyances. There might be hesitation to handing out registration forms. Registering can be approached as written in this article.
- I think 15 people per house is the maximum amount. Currently 12 are registered in K20, 2 in K22.


== Registering in Kanthaus ==


=== Applying ===
Volunteers and Members can apply for registration. This will be voted upon by Volunteers and Members. Voting time should be at least three days. Voting can happen via Mattermost, ukuvota or similiar


=== Upon acceptance ===
A board member will sign the registration form and update the list of people currently registered.


== VolMems: ==
=== Unregistering ===
- can register without having to ask but should announce it to the current group (they need a signed Wohnungsgeberbestätigung anyway)
A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and be communicated.


== Visitors ==
== About rental contracts ==
- things to consider:
    - how long are they planning on staying? (under 6 month they don't need to register in Kanthaus legally)
    - whats the reason they need to register here? (e.g. to recieve Social benefits)


Not having a rental contract is preferred. When asking for a rental contract it should be communicated what the upsides to this would be.
Rental contracts (written and unwritten) are only for VolMems who plan to live in Kanthaus for a longer period of time.


== Random knowledge & legal context ==


- Reasons for registering:
* We pay 50€ a year per person registered for trash service
    - defenitly are staying longer than 6 month (but maybe they become a volunteer then anyway)
* Making rental contracts temporary is usually invalid. There are only some reasons which don't really apply to us.
    - don't have another place to register/stay registered (flat, parents etc.)
* When taking money in return for living in the house, there already is a rental contract. It's best to have a written contract, verbal lease agreements can be annoying in the long run.
    - need to be registerd in germany to work/recieve social benefits
* Visitors/guests are legally allowed to stay somewhere unregistered for up to 6 months. So basically forever with breaks. This only applies when they are '''not''' paying rent.
* Tenants are legally required to register within two weeks after moving in (or deregister after moving out).
* Providing false information during registration or failing to deregister is a violation and may result in fines.
* If we suspect misuse, we could request a registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft) by demonstrating legitimate interest and request a persons deregistration.


- Reasons for not registering:
== Alternatives to registering at Kanthaus ==
    - only here for less then 6 month
If people need to register somewhere in the area for official reasons, there are two options in Leipzig where you can have mail delivered to. It's not a shame to go to these places. It can still feel that way though.
    - no need for social benefits
 
* [https://www.diakonie-leipzig.de/angebote_fuer_menschen_in_not_wohnungslosenhilfe_-_leipziger_oase_de.html Leipziger Oase] - recommended
* [https://www.suchtzentrum.de/insel Tagestreff Insel] - possibly more focussed on people having substance addictions; quite far from Leipzig central
 
Probably there are also social workers who could help with applying for social benefits and other problems. Calling first recommended.

Latest revision as of 02:35, 5 February 2025

Having a person registered could eventually translate into problems or annoyances. There might be hesitation to handing out registration forms. Registering can be approached as written in this article.

Registering in Kanthaus

Applying

Volunteers and Members can apply for registration. This will be voted upon by Volunteers and Members. Voting time should be at least three days. Voting can happen via Mattermost, ukuvota or similiar

Upon acceptance

A board member will sign the registration form and update the list of people currently registered.

Unregistering

A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and be communicated.

About rental contracts

Not having a rental contract is preferred. When asking for a rental contract it should be communicated what the upsides to this would be. Rental contracts (written and unwritten) are only for VolMems who plan to live in Kanthaus for a longer period of time.

Random knowledge & legal context

  • We pay 50€ a year per person registered for trash service
  • Making rental contracts temporary is usually invalid. There are only some reasons which don't really apply to us.
  • When taking money in return for living in the house, there already is a rental contract. It's best to have a written contract, verbal lease agreements can be annoying in the long run.
  • Visitors/guests are legally allowed to stay somewhere unregistered for up to 6 months. So basically forever with breaks. This only applies when they are not paying rent.
  • Tenants are legally required to register within two weeks after moving in (or deregister after moving out).
  • Providing false information during registration or failing to deregister is a violation and may result in fines.
  • If we suspect misuse, we could request a registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft) by demonstrating legitimate interest and request a persons deregistration.

Alternatives to registering at Kanthaus

If people need to register somewhere in the area for official reasons, there are two options in Leipzig where you can have mail delivered to. It's not a shame to go to these places. It can still feel that way though.

Probably there are also social workers who could help with applying for social benefits and other problems. Calling first recommended.