User:Liou:Attic usage proposals - Revision history

Liou: Liou moved page Attic usage proposals to User:Liou:Attic usage proposals: sort of archiving this because i cant delete

2025-10-25T13:03:48Z

Liou moved page Attic usage proposals to User:Liou:Attic usage proposals: sort of archiving this because i cant delete

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Lb34: /* Proposal: Office-space */

2024-12-26T11:19:43Z

Proposal: Office-space

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	* Most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.		* Most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.
	** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://~~yopad~~.~~eu/p~~/~~Ideas_about_the_Attic~~ free form pad]		** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://pad.kanthaus.online/f-PsN3ssSdqJvNwFCYwqAg# free form pad]
	** Otherwise: Click edit and start wikiing!		** Otherwise: Click edit and start wikiing!

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	*** declare option for prolonged use?		*** declare option for prolonged use?

	* For whom: residents who want to (co-)work in a ~~quieter~~ environment. Also groups.		* For whom: residents who want to (co-)work in a calmer environment. Also groups.
			* Related rooms: Silent office, Fansipan, main office
			** Silent office could work with fewer workdesks as a result

	* Pros:		* Pros:
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	* Cons:		* Cons:
	** risk of spreading centrally stored keyboards, mice, screens		** risk of spreading centrally stored keyboards, mice, screens
	**

	== Free form section ==		== Free form section ==

Lb34: /* Specific proposals */

2024-12-26T10:56:32Z

Specific proposals

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 * not all mattresses would be used / fit, so the mattress storage question is still not solved
 * makes attic use less flexible
 == Free form section ==
-''Do also feel free to either use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad] or just start writing here, starting with your own heading. Thoughts from the pad will eventually be transferred to the wiki.''
+''Do also feel free to either use the [https://pad.kanthaus.online/f-PsN3ssSdqJvNwFCYwqAg# free form pad] or just start writing here, starting with your own heading. Thoughts from the pad will eventually be transferred to the wiki.''
 === Rob ===

Janina: add sleeping corner proposal

2024-11-10T16:50:36Z

add sleeping corner proposal

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	* Will need some care if used by seminar groups. Could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?		* Will need some care if used by seminar groups. Could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?

			=== Proposal: Sleeping corner ===
			[Janina]

			Where: K20, below the garden side window closest to K22

			What: (Semi-)permanent bed construction with mattresses stretching along the garden side wall. Could end where the column is located or even go further.

			For whom: both groups and residents

			Pros:

			* mattresses have a clear space
			* mattresses are ventilated from below without further action needed
			* relatively good use of an otherwise quite unattractive corner

			Cons:

			* needs to be built
			* not all mattresses would be used / fit, so the mattress storage question is still not solved
			* makes attic use less flexible

	== Free form section ==		== Free form section ==

Lb34: minor changes

2024-11-07T20:57:14Z

minor changes

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	Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.		Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.

	We start with two categories: ~~overall~~ room_s usage and specific ideas. You may also establish new categories. If you don't want to fit your thought into categories feel free to use the free form section.		We start with two categories: Overall room_s usage and specific ideas. You may also establish new categories. If you don't want to fit your thought into categories feel free to use the free form section.

	== Why this format? ==		== Why this format? ==
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	* Most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.		* Most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.
	** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad]		** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad]
	** Otherwise: Click edit and start ~~rolling~~!		** Otherwise: Click edit and start wikiing!

	* Structure makes overviewing information easier		* Structure makes overviewing information easier.
	* Proposals formulated here can be turned into "proper" pages once they are realized.		* Proposals formulated here can be turned into "proper" pages once they are realized.
	** continuous collective upcycling of thoughts -> lower mental resource consumption?		** continuous collective upcycling of thoughts -> lower mental resource consumption?
	** Having discussion history easily accessible can be good to understand and learn about Kanthaus/attics		** Having discussion history easily accessible can be good to understand and learn about Kanthaus/attics
			* It could help in the process of taking minutes

	== Appreciation time ==		== Appreciation time ==

Lb34: continued changing stuff

2024-11-07T20:41:28Z

continued changing stuff

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	Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.		Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.

	We start with two categories: overall room_s usage and specific ideas. You may also establish new categories. If you don't feel ~~like using the templates, you may~~ use the free form section		We start with two categories: overall room_s usage and specific ideas. You may also establish new categories. If you don't want to fit your thought into categories feel free to use the free form section.

	== Why this format? ==		== Why this format? ==
	This is thought to be a trial in how the wiki can be used to discuss proposals. This could be great for several reasons:		This is thought to be a trial in how the wiki can be used to discuss proposals. This could be great for several reasons:

	* ~~most~~ people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.		* Most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.
	** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad]		** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad]
	* ~~structure~~ makes overviewing information easier		** Otherwise: Click edit and start rolling!

			* Structure makes overviewing information easier
	* Proposals formulated here can be turned into "proper" pages once they are realized.		* Proposals formulated here can be turned into "proper" pages once they are realized.
	** continuous collective upcycling of thoughts -> lower mental resource consumption?		** continuous collective upcycling of thoughts -> lower mental resource consumption?
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	== Appreciation time ==		== Appreciation time ==
	'wow wow wow!' take a moment to give into your emotions about the new [[K20 attic]]~~<nowiki/>attic~~. Feels great, doesn't it? Would you like to share about your personal connection to the attic rooms?		''wow wow wow!'' take a moment to give into your emotions about the new [[K20 attic\|K20+22 attic]]. Feels great, doesn't it? Would you like to share about your personal connection to the attic rooms?

	[Liou] I'm excited about how we can merge differing ideas into something we all stand behind. Also reaally thankful for all the renovating work <3		'''Liou:''' I'm excited about how we can merge differing ideas into something we all stand behind. Also reaally thankful for all the renovating work <3



	==Overall room_s usage==		==Overall room_s usage==
	''(Purpose, Atmosphere etc.)''		''(Purpose, Atmosphere etc.)''<blockquote>
			* Please share reasons and thoughts
	- Please share reasons and thoughts
	~~- What are possible consequences for existing rooms with a similiar function and social dynamics?~~
	~~- Depending/neighbouring room usage (possible change to non attic rooms)~~

			* What are possible consequences for existing rooms with a similiar function and social dynamics?
			* Depending/neighbouring room usage (possible change to non attic rooms)
			</blockquote>

	==Specific proposals==		==Specific proposals==
	- e.g. ~~Furniture~~, things in the room, painting walls)		''e.g. furniture, things in the room, painting walls''<blockquote>
			* How can we get it done, do you feel responsible, do you wish for support?
	~~- If you have specific ideas: how~~ can we ~~make~~ it done, do you feel responsible, do you wish for support?

	~~- Is regular repro work needed? (regular cleaning, keeping things tidy)~~

	~~- Are there related/similiar functions in other places in Kanthaus (possible change to other rooms?)~~

	~~=== [insert idea title here] ===~~

			* Is regular repro work needed? (cleaning, keeping things tidy, sorting)
			* Are there related/similiar functions in other places in Kanthaus (possible change to other rooms?)<br />
			</blockquote>

	=== Proposal: tea kitchen ===		=== Proposal: tea kitchen ===

	[Liou]		[Liou]

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	For whom: mostly for seminar groups using the attic.		For whom: mostly for seminar groups using the attic.

	~~Pro~~: - Could be easier for groups with people who are new to Kanthaus		Pros:

			* Could be easier for groups with people who are new to Kanthaus

			*less collision with guests who are mainly there for seminar reasons -> less chaos

	~~- less collision with guests who are mainly there for seminar reasons -> less chaos~~		Cons:

	~~Con: - needs~~ some care if used by seminar groups. ~~could~~ need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?		* Will need some care if used by seminar groups. Could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?

	== Free form section ==		== Free form section ==
	~~Feel~~ free to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad] or just start writing here, starting with your own heading. Thoughts from the pad will eventually be transferred to the wiki.		''Do also feel free to either use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad] or just start writing here, starting with your own heading. Thoughts from the pad will eventually be transferred to the wiki.''

	=== Rob ===		=== Rob ===

Lb34 at 13:56, 7 November 2024

2024-11-07T13:56:50Z

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	Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.		Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.

	We ~~propose~~ two categories ~~of ideas~~: ~~(a)~~ overall room_s usage and ~~(b)~~ specific ideas. You may also ~~make~~ new categories. If you don't feel like using the templates, you may use the free form section ~~or the connected etherpad.~~		We start with two categories: overall room_s usage and specific ideas. You may also establish new categories. If you don't feel like using the templates, you may use the free form section

	~~# About the form~~

			== Why this format? ==
	This is thought to be a trial in how the wiki can be used to discuss proposals. This could be great for several reasons:		This is thought to be a trial in how the wiki can be used to discuss proposals. This could be great for several reasons:

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	** Having discussion history easily accessible can be good to understand and learn about Kanthaus/attics		** Having discussion history easily accessible can be good to understand and learn about Kanthaus/attics

			== Appreciation time ==
			'wow wow wow!' take a moment to give into your emotions about the new [[K20 attic]]<nowiki/>attic. Feels great, doesn't it? Would you like to share about your personal connection to the attic rooms?
	# Appreciation time

	- wow wow wow! take a moment to give into your emotions about the new attic. Feels great, doesn't it? ~~Maybe~~ you'd like to share ~~what comes to your mind when you think~~ about your personal connection to the attic rooms

	[Liou] I'm excited about how we can merge differing ideas into something we all stand behind. Also reaally thankful for all the renovating work <3		[Liou] I'm excited about how we can merge differing ideas into something we all stand behind. Also reaally thankful for all the renovating work <3
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	# Overall room_s usage		==Overall room_s usage==
			''(Purpose, Atmosphere etc.)''
	(Purpose, Atmosphere etc.)

	- Please share reasons and thoughts		- Please share reasons and thoughts

	- What are possible consequences for existing rooms with a similiar function and social dynamics?		- What are possible consequences for existing rooms with a similiar function and social dynamics?

	- Depending/neighbouring room usage (possible change to non attic rooms)		- Depending/neighbouring room usage (possible change to non attic rooms)

	~~[idea: Multi purpose rooms for every day usage]~~

	~~[Rob]~~

	One room without only one purpose. So it can be a more free space to meet without any function or specific Work, to also do things Next to each other (so like right Now in the attic @k20). I think It creates a room to meet on a emotional and social level, because we can share Our need For resting Without Isolating Ourselves. And I think this is very important.

	~~In the other room, i prefer more or less the same, but more focused on sleeping.~~

	Even though its for me clear That both rooms can be reserved for bigger groups and workshops, Because It makes Sense in Functional living and gives options For adapting to different situations And needs.

	~~[Liou] what would be consequences for other rooms?~~

	~~(b)~~ Specific ~~Ideas (~~Furniture~~/ Things~~ in the room, ~~Painting~~)		==Specific proposals==
			- e.g. Furniture, things in the room, painting walls)

	- If you have specific ideas: how can we make it done, do you feel responsible, do you wish for support?		- If you have specific ideas: how can we make it done, do you feel responsible, do you wish for support?
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	- Are there related/similiar functions in other places in Kanthaus (possible change to other rooms?)		- Are there related/similiar functions in other places in Kanthaus (possible change to other rooms?)

	[insert idea title here]		=== [insert idea title here] ===

	~~[Rob]~~

	I think it could be nice, To have Some more "Station", where Specific things Can be done. Like Crafting, making A tee, reading a book (a book shelf with Political, activist, philo literature would be nice, which I could organize, also a carpet)

	~~Liou: carpets might make it harder to vacuum the attic (esp. for robots)~~

	~~- Would there be a change for the other book shelves in the house? possibility for reducing other book shelves?~~

	[tea kitchen]		=== Proposal: tea kitchen ===

	[Liou]		[Liou]
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	Con: - needs some care if used by seminar groups. could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?		Con: - needs some care if used by seminar groups. could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?

	# Free form section		== Free form section ==
	Feel free to use the		Feel free to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad] or just start writing here, starting with your own heading. Thoughts from the pad will eventually be transferred to the wiki.

			=== Rob ===

			One room without only one purpose. So it can be a more free space to meet without any function or specific Work, to also do things Next to each other (so like right Now in the attic @k20). I think It creates a room to meet on a emotional and social level, because we can share Our need For resting Without Isolating Ourselves. And I think this is very important.

			In the other room, i prefer more or less the same, but more focused on sleeping.

			Even though its for me clear That both rooms can be reserved for bigger groups and workshops, Because It makes Sense in Functional living and gives options For adapting to different situations And needs.

			*Liou: what would be consequences for other rooms?

			I think it could be nice, To have Some more "Station", where Specific things Can be done. Like Crafting, making A tee, reading a book (a book shelf with Political, activist, philo literature would be nice, which I could organize, also a carpet)

			*Liou: carpets might make it harder to vacuum the attic (esp. for robots)
			*Liou: Would there be a change for the other book shelves in the house? possibility for reducing other book shelves?

Lb34: Protoype

2024-11-07T13:24:37Z

Protoype

New page

Share your ideas and proposals here. If a similiar idea already exists in the pad, think about adding your thoughts there. Don't hesitate to spark discussion, express support etc.

We propose two categories of ideas: (a) overall room_s usage and (b) specific ideas. You may also make new categories. If you don't feel like using the templates, you may use the free form section or the connected etherpad.

# About the form

This is thought to be a trial in how the wiki can be used to discuss proposals. This could be great for several reasons:

* most people are familiar with being on wikis and can experience how easy it is to edit them.
** Prefer the good old pad for now? Be very welcome to use the [https://yopad.eu/p/Ideas_about_the_Attic free form pad]
* structure makes overviewing information easier
* Proposals formulated here can be turned into "proper" pages once they are realized.
** continuous collective upcycling of thoughts -> lower mental resource consumption?
** Having discussion history easily accessible can be good to understand and learn about Kanthaus/attics

# Appreciation time

- wow wow wow! take a moment to give into your emotions about the new attic. Feels great, doesn't it? Maybe you'd like to share what comes to your mind when you think about your personal connection to the attic rooms

[Liou] I'm excited about how we can merge differing ideas into something we all stand behind. Also reaally thankful for all the renovating work <3

# Overall room_s usage

(Purpose, Atmosphere etc.)

- Please share reasons and thoughts

- What are possible consequences for existing rooms with a similiar function and social dynamics?

- Depending/neighbouring room usage (possible change to non attic rooms)

[idea: Multi purpose rooms for every day usage]

[Rob]

One room without only one purpose. So it can be a more free space to meet without any function or specific Work, to also do things Next to each other (so like right Now in the attic @k20). I think It creates a room to meet on a emotional and social level, because we can share Our need For resting Without Isolating Ourselves. And I think this is very important.

In the other room, i prefer more or less the same, but more focused on sleeping.

Even though its for me clear That both rooms can be reserved for bigger groups and workshops, Because It makes Sense in Functional living and gives options For adapting to different situations And needs.

[Liou] what would be consequences for other rooms?

(b) Specific Ideas (Furniture/ Things in the room, Painting)

- If you have specific ideas: how can we make it done, do you feel responsible, do you wish for support?

- Is regular repro work needed? (regular cleaning, keeping things tidy)

- Are there related/similiar functions in other places in Kanthaus (possible change to other rooms?)

[insert idea title here]

[Rob]

I think it could be nice, To have Some more "Station", where Specific things Can be done. Like Crafting, making A tee, reading a book (a book shelf with Political, activist, philo literature would be nice, which I could organize, also a carpet)

Liou: carpets might make it harder to vacuum the attic (esp. for robots)

- Would there be a change for the other book shelves in the house? possibility for reducing other book shelves?

[tea kitchen]

[Liou]

Where: K22

What: simplified kitchen containing essential tools (water kettle, basin, cups, glasses, thermos, tea, microwave, induction plate)

For whom: mostly for seminar groups using the attic.

Pro: - Could be easier for groups with people who are new to Kanthaus

- less collision with guests who are mainly there for seminar reasons -> less chaos

Con: - needs some care if used by seminar groups. could need a lot care if regularly/randomly used for comfort reasons -> have it as an exclusive kitchen?

# Free form section
Feel free to use the