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Doug: inspirations from poster

2026-02-13T14:52:13Z

inspirations from poster

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	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+		\|+
	!~~Thing~~		!Item/area...
	!~~Default~~ state		!to be left in default state...
	!~~When~~		!when...
	!~~Known~~ exceptions		!with known exceptions
	\|-		\|-
	\|sinks		\|sinks
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	\|before leaving room		\|before leaving room
	\|items temporarily left for community benefit: festive decoration, important information, etc		\|items temporarily left for community benefit: festive decoration, important information, etc
			\|-
			\|other communal surfaces
			\|clear and clean
			\|before leaving room
			\|Works-in-progress marked with name and date
	\|-		\|-
	\|toilets		\|toilets
	\|clean; seat dry; used towelets in bucket; ~~refill towelets~~, toilet paper or menstrual products ~~if empty~~		\|clean; seat dry; used towelets in bucket; with towelettes, toilet paper and menstrual products for next person
	\|before leaving room		\|before leaving room
	\|		\|
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	\|-		\|-
	\|private rooms		\|private rooms
	\|free of personal items, surfaces clean		\|free of personal items, surfaces clean - nice for unknown next person
	\|before reservation ends		\|before reservation ends
	\|		\|
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	\|-		\|-
	\|personal desks		\|personal desks
	\|personal items stored on or under, ~~other people~~ able to temporarily ~~use~~		\|personal items stored on or under desk, preferably enough free space for another person to be able to use temporarily
	\|~~before~~ claim ends		\|when claim ends
	\|very small desks need not be usable by others		\|very small desks need not be usable by others
			\|-
			\|personal storage areas
			\|clear and clean; people with extra spaces to actively clear one as new people need
			\|when claim ends
			\|
			\|-
			\|couches/sofas
			\|free of debris and presentable
			\|when leaving couch/sofa
			\|
	\|}		\|}

Doug at 09:59, 11 December 2025

2025-12-11T09:59:21Z

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	On Tuesday 11th November 2025 I hosted a session on "Cleanliness and orderliness" in response to perceived drop in standards. It was useful, interesting and the dining ~~room~~ table has been ''a lot'' cleaner since then. (Also, Lena ~~starting~~ "general responsibilities" and "weekly tasks" ~~boards~~ may have helped.) This page is for me to publicly ~~organized~~ my thoughts ~~for cementing those gains~~.		On Tuesday 11th November 2025 I hosted a session on "Cleanliness and orderliness" in response to a perceived drop in standards. It was useful, interesting and the dining table has been ''a lot'' cleaner since then. (Also, Lena started a "general responsibilities" and "weekly tasks" board, which may have helped.) This page is for me to publicly organize my thoughts towards further improvements and making the current improvements stick.

	== General ==		== General advice ==
	The general advice ~~remains~~ "leave things as good as you found them". This ~~fails when~~ people have different perceptions of "~~better~~" and "how they found them"~~, which is often~~. <blockquote>~~'''~~Philosophical side-note~~'''~~		The classic, general advice is "leave things as good as you found them". This has limitations, since people have different perceptions of "good" and different observations of "how they found them". <blockquote>Philosophical side-note:

	In wild places, the general advice is "leave no trace" or "leave only footprints" - the idea being that if you don't leave trash and don't take anything, the place will be conserved. But you still shed hair and skin and leave footprints: the weather and countless organisms clean up and reset things after you. This is not the case in human structures, like buildings, where we specifically keep out the weather and non-humans, so the humans responsible for all dirt and chaos inside them. Further, the structures themselves age and degrade thanks to weather and entropy. Therefore, it really is necessary to not only clean up after yourself, but do more. I have heard it formulated as "leave better trace" and "leave it (3%) better than you found it". </blockquote>		In wild places, the general advice is "leave no trace" or "leave only footprints" - the idea being that if you don't leave trash and don't take anything, the place will be conserved. But you still shed hair and skin and leave footprints: the weather and countless organisms clean up and reset things after you. This is not the case in human structures, like buildings, where we specifically keep out the weather and non-humans, so the humans responsible for all dirt and chaos inside them. Further, the structures themselves age and degrade thanks to weather and entropy. Therefore, it really is necessary to not only clean up after yourself, but do more. I have heard it formulated as "leave better trace" and "leave it (3%) better than you found it". </blockquote>

	== Specific ==		== Specific states ==
	The following table aims to capture more specifically capture the state things should be left in and when.		The following table aims to capture more specifically capture the state things should be left in and when:
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	!Default state		!Default state
	!When		!When
	!~~Exceptions~~		!Known exceptions
	\|-		\|-
	\|sinks		\|sinks

Doug: add notes on "leave no trace", expand specifics table

2025-12-11T09:48:50Z

add notes on "leave no trace", expand specifics table

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	== General ==		== General ==
	The ~~most~~ general advice ~~would be~~ "leave things as good (or better) than you found ~~them~~".		The general advice remains "leave things as good as you found them". This fails when people have different perceptions of "better" and "how they found them", which is often. <blockquote>'''Philosophical side-note'''

			In wild places, the general advice is "leave no trace" or "leave only footprints" - the idea being that if you don't leave trash and don't take anything, the place will be conserved. But you still shed hair and skin and leave footprints: the weather and countless organisms clean up and reset things after you. This is not the case in human structures, like buildings, where we specifically keep out the weather and non-humans, so the humans responsible for all dirt and chaos inside them. Further, the structures themselves age and degrade thanks to weather and entropy. Therefore, it really is necessary to not only clean up after yourself, but do more. I have heard it formulated as "leave better trace" and "leave it (3%) better than you found it". </blockquote>

	== Specific ==		== Specific ==
			The following table aims to capture more specifically capture the state things should be left in and when.
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+		\|+
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	\|before leaving room		\|before leaving room
	\|items temporarily left for community benefit: festive decoration, important information, etc		\|items temporarily left for community benefit: festive decoration, important information, etc
			\|-
			\|toilets
			\|clean; seat dry; used towelets in bucket; refill towelets, toilet paper or menstrual products if empty
			\|before leaving room
			\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|hallways		\|hallways
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	\|A.S.A.P.		\|A.S.A.P.
	\|big arrivals of communal stuff, temporary storage of private things (marked with name and date)		\|big arrivals of communal stuff, temporary storage of private things (marked with name and date)
			\|-
			\|private rooms
			\|free of personal items, surfaces clean
			\|before reservation ends
			\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|beds		\|beds
	\|covered with usable sheets, free of debris and presentable		\|covered with usable sheets, free of debris and presentable
	\|before ~~un-claiming bed~~		\|before claim ends
	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|~~private rooms~~		\|personal desks
	\|~~free of~~ personal items, ~~surfaces clean~~		\|personal items stored on or under, other people able to temporarily use
	\|before ~~reservation~~ ends		\|before claim ends
	\|		\|very small desks need not be usable by others
	\|}		\|}

Doug: init

2025-12-11T09:24:43Z

init

New page

On Tuesday 11th November 2025 I hosted a session on "Cleanliness and orderliness" in response to perceived drop in standards. It was useful, interesting and the dining room table has been ''a lot'' cleaner since then. (Also, Lena starting "general responsibilities" and "weekly tasks" boards may have helped.) This page is for me to publicly organized my thoughts for cementing those gains.

== General ==
The most general advice would be "leave things as good (or better) than you found them".

== Specific ==
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Thing
!Default state
!When
!Exceptions
|-
|sinks
|clear, clean, sieve empty
|before leaving room
|
|-
|dining table
|clear and clean
|before leaving room
|items temporarily left for community benefit: festive decoration, important information, etc
|-
|hallways
|clear
|A.S.A.P.
|big arrivals of communal stuff, temporary storage of private things (marked with name and date)
|-
|beds
|covered with usable sheets, free of debris and presentable
|before un-claiming bed
|
|-
|private rooms
|free of personal items, surfaces clean
|before reservation ends
|
|}