Lb34/Registration - Revision history

Liou at 00:35, 5 February 2025

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	~~Registering can be important for many reasons~~. There might be hesitation on handing out ~~landlord certifications for also many reasons~~.		Having a person registered could eventually translate into problems or annoyances. There might be hesitation to handing out registration forms. Registering can be approached as written in this article.



	== Registering in Kanthaus ==		== Registering in Kanthaus ==

Liou: /* Registering in Kanthaus */

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Registering in Kanthaus

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	== Registering in Kanthaus ==		== Registering in Kanthaus ==

	Volunteers and Members can ~~request~~ registration. This will be voted upon by Volunteers and Members.		=== Applying ===
	~~There is a list of who is registered. The person registering~~ should ~~make sure it's getting updated~~.		Volunteers and Members can apply for registration. This will be voted upon by Volunteers and Members. Voting time should be at least three days. Voting can happen via Mattermost, ukuvota or similiar

			=== Upon acceptance ===
			A board member will sign the registration form and update the list of people currently registered.

	=== Unregistering ===		=== Unregistering ===

Liou: /* Unregistering */

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Unregistering

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	=== Unregistering ===		=== Unregistering ===
	A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and ~~ideally get~~ communicated.		A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and be communicated.

	== About rental contracts ==		== About rental contracts ==

Liou: /* Unregistering */

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Unregistering

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	== Unregistering ==		=== Unregistering ===
	A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and ideally get communicated.		A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and ideally get communicated.

Liou: /* About rental contracts */

2025-02-04T23:51:08Z

About rental contracts

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	== About rental contracts ==		== About rental contracts ==

			Not having a rental contract is preferred. When asking for a rental contract it should be communicated what the upsides to this would be.
	Rental contracts (written and unwritten) are only for VolMems who plan to live in Kanthaus for a longer period of time.		Rental contracts (written and unwritten) are only for VolMems who plan to live in Kanthaus for a longer period of time.

Liou at 21:02, 24 January 2025

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	Registering can be important for many reasons. There might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons.		Registering can be important for many reasons. There might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons.

	~~Generally, registering is only possible for Volunteers and Members.~~

	== Registering in Kanthaus ==		== Registering in Kanthaus ==

	* Volunteers can request registration. This will be ~~decided~~ upon by Volunteers and Members.		Volunteers and Members can request registration. This will be voted upon by Volunteers and Members.
	* Members do not need to request.		There is a list of who is registered. The person registering should make sure it's getting updated.
	* There is a list of who is registered. ~~Please~~ make sure it's getting updated.

Liou at 20:58, 24 January 2025

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	Registering can be important for many reasons. ~~On the other side, there~~ might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons. ~~This entry~~ is ~~there to give some guidelines~~ and ~~information on registering~~.		Registering can be important for many reasons. There might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons.

			Generally, registering is only possible for Volunteers and Members.

	== Registering in Kanthaus ==		== Registering in Kanthaus ==

	* Volunteers can request ~~a landlord certification/Wohnungsgeberbestätigung~~. This will be decided upon by Volunteers and Members.		* Volunteers can request registration. This will be decided upon by Volunteers and Members.
	* Members do not need to request ~~this and probably are registered anyways~~		* Members do not need to request.
	* There is a list of who is registered. Please make sure it's getting updated.		* There is a list of who is registered. Please make sure it's getting updated.

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	== About rental contracts ==		== About rental contracts ==

			Rental contracts (written and unwritten) are only for VolMems who plan to live in Kanthaus for a longer period of time.

	== Random knowledge & legal context ==		== Random knowledge & legal context ==

Liou at 20:50, 24 January 2025

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	== Unregistering ==		== Unregistering ==
			A person should unregister in case of becoming a visitor or moving out of Kanthaus permanently. It should happen in a reasonable timeframe and ideally get communicated.
	* When moving out of Kanthaus permanently~~, please unregister~~ in a reasonable timeframe.
	* Let us know about you unregistering.

	== About rental contracts ==		== About rental contracts ==

Liou: /* About rental contracts */

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 Probably there are also social workers who could help with applying for social benefits and other problems. Calling first recommended.

Liou at 20:35, 24 January 2025

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	Registering can be important for many reasons. On the other side, there might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons. This entry is there to give some guidelines and information on registering.		Registering can be important for many reasons. On the other side, there might be hesitation on handing out landlord certifications for also many reasons. This entry is there to give some guidelines and information on registering.

	== ~~Process for registering~~ in Kanthaus ==		== Registering in Kanthaus ==

	* Visitors/guests are legally allowed to stay somewhere unregistered for up to 6 months. So basically forever with breaks. This only applies when they are '''not''' paying rent.
	** Therefore we (usually) do not give landlord certifications and/or rental contracts to visitors.
	* Volunteers can request a landlord certification/Wohnungsgeberbestätigung. This will be decided upon by Volunteers and Members.		* Volunteers can request a landlord certification/Wohnungsgeberbestätigung. This will be decided upon by Volunteers and Members.
	* Members do not need to request this and probably are registered anyways		* Members do not need to request this and probably are registered anyways
			* There is a list of who is registered. Please make sure it's getting updated.


	== Unregistering ==		== Unregistering ==

	* When moving out of Kanthaus permanently, please unregister in a reasonable timeframe		* When moving out of Kanthaus permanently, please unregister in a reasonable timeframe.
	* ~~Please let~~ us know about you unregistering		* Let us know about you unregistering.

	== About rental contracts ==		== About rental contracts ==
	~~We should keep in mind that:~~

	* Making rental contracts temporary is usually invalid. There are only some reasons which don't really apply to us.
	* When taking money in return for living in the house, there already is a rental contract. It's best to have a written contract, verbal lease agreements can be annoying in the long run.

	== Alternatives to registering at Kanthaus ==		== Alternatives to registering at Kanthaus ==
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	Probably there are also social workers who could help with applying for social benefits and other problems. Calling first recommended.		Probably there are also social workers who could help with applying for social benefits and other problems. Calling first recommended.

	== ~~Legal~~ context ~~on renting and registrations~~ ==		== Random knowledge & legal context ==

			* We pay 50€ a year per person registered for trash service
			* Making rental contracts temporary is usually invalid. There are only some reasons which don't really apply to us.
			* When taking money in return for living in the house, there already is a rental contract. It's best to have a written contract, verbal lease agreements can be annoying in the long run.
			* Visitors/guests are legally allowed to stay somewhere unregistered for up to 6 months. So basically forever with breaks. This only applies when they are '''not''' paying rent.
	* Tenants are legally required to register within '''two weeks''' after moving in (or deregister after moving out), as stated in '''§ 17 of the Federal Registration Act (BMG)'''.		* Tenants are legally required to register within '''two weeks''' after moving in (or deregister after moving out), as stated in '''§ 17 of the Federal Registration Act (BMG)'''.
	* Landlords (we) are obligated to provide a '''confirmation of residence (Wohnungsgeberbescheinigung)''' under '''§ 19 BMG'''.		* Landlords (we) are obligated to provide a '''confirmation of residence (Wohnungsgeberbescheinigung)''' under '''§ 19 BMG'''.
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	* If we suspect misuse, we could request a '''registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft)''' by demonstrating legitimate interest (e.g., former tenants fraudulently using our address).		* If we suspect misuse, we could request a '''registration record inquiry (Melderegisterauskunft)''' by demonstrating legitimate interest (e.g., former tenants fraudulently using our address).
	* If former tenants fail to deregister, we could report this to the registration office and request their deregistration.		* If former tenants fail to deregister, we could report this to the registration office and request their deregistration.

	* Sources:
	* [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__17.html § 17 BMG – Registration Obligation (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
	* [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__19.html § 19 BMG – Confirmation of Residence (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
	* [https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bmg/__54.html § 54 BMG – Administrative Offenses (gesetze-im-internet.de)]
	* [https://www.datenschutz.org/melderegisterauskunft/ Registration Records Explained – Datenschutz.org (German)]

	~~== Random knowledge ==~~

	* We pay 50€ per person registered/year for trash service